Hello lads.

It’s been a while since my last post. My apologies that you haven’t had my ramblings in your in box, or is it inbox?

As the title suggests, I am questioning whether or not it is the end of my daygame journey. I have been writing on this theme for a couple of years now, and I have to say, now I think it is.

I am 9 months into a relationship with a girl that I really like, a lot. More importantly, she is crazy about me, I’m no relationship expert, but I think this is one of the if not, most important things for any successful relationship. I have no idea if that constitutes the L word, but that’s what it feels like. The thought of hurting her is horrible, and so I’ve stopped all forms of game – tinder is deleted, I don’t act on IOI’s and I don’t hit on birds in bars.

It’s easy being in a relationship in the winter months, I never really enjoyed winter daygame. I know some fellas excel in this department, and fair play to them, but let’s be honest, it’s not as nice as Summer when the birds are scantily clad and horny. The real test for me will be when Summer rolls around again. I’m based in Warsaw, and even in winter I see pretty girls every day. It’s still hard not opening them, and I know that the “what if?” feeling will never go away.

But in life you need to make choices. Do you want to be old and grey and live alone in shitty apartment with cats? Or do you want a partner and potentially your own offspring to add more purpose to your life? I have always wanted the latter.

And that’s the plan lads. I’m done for the time being, but I’m not an idiot, I’ve been in many failed relationships. If that happens then obviously i’ll be back. I have a very particular set of skills…

I probably won’t kill anyone though.

And these skills will not go away. What will, is my youth. Many fellas in the community say that age doesn’t matter. And to those I say Bull fucking shit. It does, as anything does in your overall social market value. You are simply delusional if you think otherwise. My advice to anyone getting into game, is to get out before you get consumed by your own ego, chasing the next rat bag. Realise when you are ahead, tell yourself well done, and walk off into the sunset.

I normally post a run down of my stats for the year, but they’re nothing to shout about this year, I did 200 sets and banged 9 girls from daygame and a few others from bars. But my heart wasn’t in it, I was just going through the motions.

I did a bit of coaching this year, and seeing the enthusiasm on my client’s faces and actions only reinforced this fact – “Roy, you don’t give a fuck any more, get out”, my wee brain would say to me. “What am I doing wrong here?” They would ask, I would tell them, they would understand and usually correct it. But my heart simply wasn’t in it, and as such I will be refraining from all coaching. If you’re interested in that type of thing I’d recommend Broody or Clown.

Good luck lads, maybe I will be back. But I hope not.

19 thoughts on “The end?

  1. Sounds sensible, I’m happy for you. Best of luck. Will you stay in Poland, if the main reason for being there was the abundance of skirt?

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  2. Hah this was me 10 years ago in my 30s. I got really good at game but I was just going through the motions. I knew it was time for the next phase. I got married and I have 2 lovely children. I’m glad I didn’t wait until I was late 40s to do it – it takes a lot of physical energy to raise kids! I think in life we go through phases that last a few years then we move on to the next thing. Best of luck to you!

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  3. Roy… great post.

    > Many fellas in the community say that age doesn’t matter. And to those I say Bull fucking shit

    Ehhh… age, as in “getting older,” is your friend, if you’re getting better. I will be 50 soon. I had the best year of Game I ever had, with the fewest approaches, best sex (entirely dif level), best rels, 3 teenagers this year, ongoing rotations, etc. I know if I stay at it I’ll get even better… because I have used the years to GROW.

    If you’re not growing… getting older will only knock you down. As a man, there are so many facets to being solid… men can easily crush it into their 50s… IF, they work at expanding their potential, and if that is what they want.

    I am the oldest guy I know doing this… and had my best year ever. Stronger, sexier, a better man all around. The girls were so happy. I’m not guessing; it’s more than possible.

    But…

    > My advice to anyone getting into game, is to get out before you get consumed by your own ego, chasing the next rat bag

    This is for real. Notches don’t mean what they used to. And an “average” experience with a girl is not that interesting to me anymore. A lot of “really hot girls” are “average” (or worse) to be with.

    The “very good experiences” are hard to deny, though… but I have been through the “mechanical” lays enough. I don’t really need that anymore, either.

    > The thought of hurting her is horrible

    Beautiful line ^.

    Runner and I were talking about “betrayal” last week. I feel you. Good for you. And good for her that this is on your mind.

    > do you want a partner and potentially your own offspring to add more purpose to your life? I have always wanted the latter.

    Good for you, again.

    Janka and Lance Mason are some of my favorite exps of truly credible players, totally killed it, and then… went deep with a given girl. Krauser (A man I have incredible respect for), to my knowledge, showed us an alternate… daygame burn out. Janka/Lance look to have been on a better path.

    Respect to you, Roy. I am happy for you.

    I am of the opinion that “pickup” is just a slice of Game (and an early part of the “funnel”). Wrangling your girl (and maybe some kids) is what deep Game looks like. Still so much to learn and explore.

    I wish you luck. Viva Roy Walker.

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    1. Hey ROY:

      From the comments on Twitter:

      “You will quickly go back to the chase, monogamy is a testosterone killer.”
      — Gilles

      Not saying that is true, but any comments about that line? Any sense that Game did more than just provide girls… the chase/hunt/kill of it was a testosterone regulator. Feels true to me.

      Any thoughts on that? And/or about testosterone maintenance post-Game?

      It’s on my mind.

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      1. I would disagree (strongly) that monogamy is a testosterone killer. If you find the right girl, who supports your goals, likes shagging and you genuinely have fun with each other, I would say it BOOSTS testosterone. You’re on a path, you have a bit more purpose, the possibility of a family, which to me is the best thing a man can do. Sure, shagging loadsa birds is fun, making loadsa money is fun, but there’s still that emptiness.

        There will always be other pretty girls and temptations, and if you’re a bit dirty, you could still do that on the sly. But I’m past all of that now.

        I am no doctor, so I can’t advise on how to maintain testosterone into old age. Many fellas do THT and there are many natural methods. All I know is I have plenty, perhaps dating a girl 20 years younger than me helps with that.

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  4. Yep, sex with someone you have real feelings for is the best sex you can have. Not worth anymore spending my time on the streets just for another notch. In, out, cum, bye, next one…it kills your soul. Ultimately, daygame should be used to find the girl you love, at least for a limited time.

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  5. You have posted great stories …really enjoyed reading them…
    Pickup skill is only one facet of life….raising kids and maintaining good relations with wife..is another way to be an alpha male….

    Good Luck…all the best bro !

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  6. Sad news and wise words man!
    I so much enjoyed reading your blog and in that way be part of your transformation.
    You always had a different approach to Game, it felt like you didn’t want to heal a wound like most of us (Day)gamers/PUAs but just live life “more”.
    Agree with Nash: _The thought of hurting her is horrible_ is beautiful and it shows you’re ready for the next challenge: LTR and kids.
    I retired from Daygame / shut down http://www.socialparkour.com at age 51 and got into LTR with one of my plates. She was 29 when our daughter was born who now is 21 month old.
    Man, if you thought you knew what love and happiness is – a child will change ALL of that. I always associated responsability and stress with children but until know it just a never ending source of joy!
    I left commy Coronanazi Germany and will have a second child in a year :o)
    Sure, you need to have a young, eastern european, traditional ideally with young parents, she takes care and you provide. Kids are not that expensive, the challenge is to keep you LTR spicy – pregnancy and motherhood changes women on all levels but esp. eastern girl want still to look hot and please their man.
    The only important thing is to always stay alpha for the rest of your life. Women need leaders as do kids. But in your case, I have no doubts.
    Enjoy your new life!

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    1. > I retired from Daygame / shut down http://www.socialparkour.com at age 51 and got into LTR with one of my plates. She was 29 when our daughter was born who now is 21 month old.

      Hey, I would love to have a conversation with you about all this. I’m very curious about this perspective… and nearly did it myself recently, but am back to being a “notorious bachelor.”

      If you would be willing, I’d like to hear your story. If you’re interested, would you please contact me thru my site?

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      1. Sure, happy to share my thoughts and experiences, now that I‘ve seen a few additional facets of that good ol‘ men-women-thingy which you free and unchained bastards Daygamers haven’t seen yet.

        My TL;DR is, on the dark side of the moon, you still see the sun but need to keep your head up at all time.

        Actually, you play a pivotal role in my life Nash, in a way you would never ever imagine. Whenever a new piece of yours is out, I‘m scrolling down a bit, feel overwhelmed, oh man this will take me an hour to read but then start anyway, the Nash Sound bamboozles me the same way The Yad‘s mid set talking did young Polish girls.

        We have more in common than the 50+ Daygamer Medal. I now confess, publicly, I‘m as well an—Axillaficionado!

        I wouldn’t have had the discipline to research and write about all the references in art, I’ve always been too impatient to do a lot of foreplay—unless it was a case of Freudian Triebaufschub and a technique of making myself ultra horny which lead to desaster afterwards, as is still to be laid out in my #08 story of 50ShadesOfBlindness .

        Anyway, the Axilla is the hidden gem of the erogenous zones and you discovered and classified it for the first time, so should there one day be a young ambitious Notch Count Hunter who wants to become the Linné of Daygame, this entry will be named after you.

        I‘ll get the spot of Tit Kino TM which I will introduce in my story #32.

        Even back in my pre-Game days, I had told a girl or two to not use her deodorant that night which required some persuasion (I never had to tell a girl to shave tho, that is a problem of Gen Z betas who prolly don’t even care). Then, during the deed I licked her Axilla while holding her wrists crossed firmly behind her head. An explosion of lust followed, her being surprised and overwhelmed that a guy knew and used that secret and me, well, the older experienced man, the artist, the connoisseur I‘ve always been, building up tension in my services to worship The Female Beauty.

        The twin of Licka Da Pussy, so to speak, thanks for hosting this, Roy.

        And of course, Viva Daygame 50+, Nash!

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      2. I just noticed that I deviated a bit in the above, so here‘s some lessons learnt if you‘re still interested:
        -Kids are a miracle, beautiful but also dominate your life and sleep, so you should have been considering kids before, like had felt satisfaction playing with your nephews/nieces/friends‘ kids. I felt satisfaction to be a daddy figure during two LTRs with single moms
        -Don‘t do it „in order to“, to get something or somewhere, esp. not to give your life a purpose or to heal it. I mean, you learn a lot about yourself and grow but the kid can‘t be a means to an end. Like, you invite your best buddy to a restaurant just because you like to do so. Being daddy is being generous for no reason, because you can, by whom you‘ve become over the years
        -My PUA/Daygame years were great and having experienced this life (for five years) made me ready for the next step, having fond memories but you can’t be a player and raise a healthy family, need to pick
        -The real challenge is to find the mother of your children: pregnancy and motherhood are a huge challenge for women, mentally and bodily. She needs to be able to handle that and on top, also being a good spouse. Forget the first two, three years of your relationship, but then, if you have stuff in common, humour, values, interests, you‘ll be fine, likely.
        -IMO picking a girl under 30 is important and 20 or 25 years younger is fine, you can do that, just don‘t give a fuck what others say/think, it‘s just envy (both by women and men) who can‘t have it
        -She must be tradcon and check out her mother, ideally a strong person who raised 2 or 3 kids herself. Better to settle with a 7 who is not styling herself to the max than with a trophy insta whore—a baby cracks every false façade real quick, again, mentally and bodily
        -Be fine if you decide to Daygame and stay bachelor, you‘re nor worse nor better than a dad, just enjoy and value the freedom and abundance of time you have and the absence of the inevitable nagging voice. Esp. in your case with your writing, it‘s a choice to devote your life to an art and you have more freedom to create the exact life you want to lead, parenthood/co-living comes with a lot of compromises
        -So far my conclusions. I learnt through my Inner Game journey that I became a codependent due to my narc hippie parents and overcame that not during my Game years („Killing the Nice Guy and Yes Man“) but during the fights with my nagging wife and in business over the last three years, so that made me stronger.
        -I had read a book how to influence the sex of your child, she became the girl I wanted with the zodiac sign I wanted and she‘s beautiful, so she’s the first woman after my mom and grandmas with whom I eventually can let my love for the female flow freely, who actually deserves it.
        -And yes, ALWAYS lead, always set boundaries, be above, but that’s to be with everyone in life anyway, right? A kid is pure love on top of that

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  7. Do you want to be old and grey and live alone in shitty apartment with cats? – damn that’s me, exactly as you say a victim of my own ego. I could’ve settled but the girl wasn’t hot or trustworthy enough. I just wasn’t that into her tho I could’ve done worse. I thought I could do better but the next one turned out to worse….

    Wish I’d read your words ten years ago

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