girls
Not quite this many.

Another year has passed and I’m still running around talking to girls. I thought I’d be losing the thrill of the chase by this point, but at three and a half years and 2,787 sets into my journey, it feels like I’m just getting to the good part…

Bitcoin level volatility. That’s how I’d sum up 2017 in three words, especially compared to 2016 which was more like an ISA savings account with slow and steady returns. I endured my longest dry spell of three and a half months at the beginning of 2017 before going on a 3 month Eurojaunt where I banged a new girl every 6.29 days. After this madness I returned to the home of daygame for a couple of months to rack up a few more before I was exiled to Melbourne (daygame prison) for the last quarter of the year. I carried on daygaming but to no avail claiming only one notch down under, granted I only did 38 sets, but that was across 20 odd sessions (I don’t tally the sessions where I don’t open, which was a lot in Melbourne). I found more joy when I visited Hong Kong for an 8-day last hurrah in December, adding two late notches to the tally. Despite a year of severe ups and downs and daygaming in 9 different cities, the overall results weren’t too bad; in fact they were pretty good, maybe not Bitcoin good…

Statwank – Daygame Only

2016

Sets Numbers FB’s Flakes idates Dates Near Misses Lays
1000 18.80% 3.80% 10.70% 0.90% 4.30% 0.40% 1.70%
188 38 107 9 43 4 17

2017

Sets Number FB Flake Date Flake idate Date Near Miss Lays
882 25.62% 5.67% 36.59% 7.25% 2.83% 5.10% 1.36% 1.93%
226 50 101 20 25 45 12 17

This post is my first time comparing 2016 to 2017 and I am pleasantly surprised to see improvement, especially since I was telling Mr W over dinner last night that I did better in 2016. However, every percentage is higher in 2017. The flake count is a false comparison as I only started counting flakes towards the end of 2016, I am certain I got less flakes in 2017. I did 118 fewer approaches in 2017 but banged the same number of girls as in 2016. The biggest difference is highlighted on the second column from the end.

Near Misses

8 of the 12 were on my Eurojaunt where time was not my friend. I would often get the girl to the precipice before her forebrain would remind her that I wouldn’t be sticking around. I eventually converted the near miss in Melbourne and the other 3 were girls passing through in London. Most girls have a line in the sand that they will not pass no-matter how good the seduction is. I think I took most of these girls further than they wanted and others not far enough, perhaps with tighter game I could have converted a few more. I can also clearly remember 3 other girls that I got back to my bedroom but I did not add them to the near miss tally as I never felt I was close to sex. I was pulling harder and faster than I previously had the balls to do in 2017. Most players will go through this stage before getting fed up of the near misses and looking to find a nice little K girl to settle with.

Now back to statwank;

My approach to close (numbers and facebook) was 1 in 3.22. This is bloody good if I don’t say so myself.

My close to flake ratio was 1 in 2.73. Not so good.

My close to date flake ratio was 1 in 13.8. This is horrendous, 20 girls agreed to dates and didn’t turn up, almost all of these were in Moscow and this is the reason I will never return there. EVER. Whores. Yes, I’m still fuming 6 months later. OK, OK, maybe I’ll go back one day for a revenge mission.

My approach to date ratio was 1 in 19.6. This is decent.

My approach to lay ratio was 1 in 51.88. The pro’s say advanced daygamers should be aiming for 1 in 30. Guess I still have a ways to go.

But Roy, you’re making my head hurt with all these numbers, isn’t it time to stop keeping stats and just go with feelz like all the top players do?

I find it easy to keep stats and so I will carry on keeping them. I don’t understand how others find it so difficult, perhaps it would hurt their ego (or business) if others knew the harsh reality. I haven’t seen many of the top players share ACCURATE statistics or lay reports throughout the year so I am always hugely jealous slightly sceptical when I see fellas pop up with stats up at the end of the year that are way better than mine. Especially when some report an approximate approach count that varies by a range of 200. TWO HUNDRED, I understand a range of perhaps 50, or even 100, but 200? This obviously makes a big difference to your approach to lay ratio, mine would be 1 in 38 if I rounded down by two hundred sets, that Ian fella in Poland would be at 1 in 4.38!

It’s fine to call yourself an advanced daygamer after 14 months in the game, kudos, you go for it, but the stats, if you kept them may tell a different story. Adversely, you may think you’re not doing so well and then surprise yourself when you look at your stats, like me in this post. Your perception of yourself probably doesn’t match reality, especially in the eyes of a hot young girl. I understand if you know your stats are shit and you’d rather bury your head in the sand, that’s fine. What grinds my gears is the charlatans that set false expectations for the new guys. That’s that little rant over with, back to me.

Here’s a run-down of the 22 lucky ladies in chronological order, with links to the relevant blog posts, HB rating, and age.

  1. Night Game Belgrade – 14/04/2017 – 7 – 23
  2. Girl outside Restaurant Belgrade – 20/04/2017 – 7 – 22
  3. 19 Year old Belgrade– 21/04/2017 – 7 – 19
  4. D4 Belgrade – 22/04/2017 – 7 – 29
  5. Night Game Warsaw – 30/04/2017 – 6 – 20
  6. Ukrainian in Warsaw – 02/05/2017 – 8 – 25
  7. Night Game Blondie in Warsaw – 12/05/2017 – 8 – 22
  8. The Witch in Warsaw – 16/05/2017 – 7 – 27
  9. J Cups Warsaw – 20/05/2017 – 6 – 24
  10. Night game in Moscow – 03/06/2017 – 6 – 26
  11. 17 Year old Moscow – 07/06/2017 – 7 – 17
  12. Violinist Kiev – 29/06/2017 – 7 – 20
  13. D6 Kiev – 06/07/2017 – 7 – 22
  14. Yes Girl Kiev – 08/07/2017 – 6 – 33
  15. Chinese/Indian in London – 24/07/2017 – 7.5 – 23
  16. Kuwaiti SDL in London – 28/08/2017 – 7 – 30
  17. Portuguese in London – 01/09/2017 – 6.5 – 30
  18. Scottish/Persian SDDL in London – 09/09/2017 – 7 – 22
  19. Vietnamese/Australian – Tinder – October 2017 – 7 – 27
  20. Indian in Melbourne – 06/11/2017 – 7 – 27
  21. Local Celeb in HK – 20/12/2017 – 7.5 – 23
  22. Period Girl in HK – 21/12/2017 – 6.5 – 30

Averages – HB 6.91 – Age 24.59

That’s 22 in total, one less than last year. 17 from daygame, 4 nightgame and 1 from Tinder. There are two girls that weren’t worth a blog post; The first was night game in Moscow. She opened me and asked me to take her home immediately, I obliged. The other was tinder in Melbourne. She was actually a really nice girl that I banged a few more times before she got super clingy, I should have saw this coming as she told me she was looking for a husband on the first date. So, despite one less notch than in 2016, I think my game has improved significantly and the stats back this up.

What helped?

Dry Spell

When Xants and I boarded the plane to Belgrade I was chomping at the bit to get there. I was hungrier than a refugee in Paris lion in the African bush that hadn’t killed in months and I was convinced there was nothing wrong with my game. This could have been sheer delusion but my results in Belgrade seemed to back up my self-assessment. Equally you could say that 3 months of hibernation may have helped, I may have had the hunger after such a long time off, but my game would not have been as sharp.

Taking Time off Work

12 of the 22 notches were during the Eurojaunt. So there is no doubting that if your main purpose is to go out all day every day doing daygame that you will probably bang a load of birds. Looking back though, there is no way I could have sustained this lifestyle and I don’t think I could kept banging birds at that rate if I did it for a whole year. I would need some sort of side job to take my mind off the daygame, and obviously give me some beer money. I still haven’t cracked this cookie yet, so 2018 will see me returning to the office and taking jaunts when I can.

Good Wings

As I mentioned in my Jaunt Review, a wing can make or break a trip. If you enjoy their company you will have a blast even when you’re not on the street. If they’re annoying you then your vibe on the street will be off and you will hate your time off the streets. I’ve been lucky in this regard, not just on jaunts but also in London, Manchester and Dublin down the years. I also know a weirdo when I see one and proceed to avoid them like the plague, this helps.

Enjoying the process

I have rubbished this idea in the past, you shouldn’t be enjoying it, you should be out there GRINDING, only with maximum effort comes maximum reward. Perhaps I have Krauser to thank for making me realise this, but you should never be walking down the street with a scowl on your face and then opening girls. They sense it immediately and you come across as a weirdo. Looking back at my dry spell, I was probably guilty of this stomping around freezing cold London demanding that girls be nice to me. If you have a wing, make each other laugh even if you’re bastardising a song or saying the same Father Ted joke for the 50th time. If you’re solo, do whatever it is that will keep you amused, speak to someone selling a dodgy iphone, listen to Joe Rogan, listen to heavy metal, click your fingers and point like a crazy person, whatever it is that will keep you out of your head.

Calibration

It seems like common sense to me now that there’s no point opening a girl who is sprinting down the street with her phone in her ear, or a girl who’s crying her eyes out, or a girl on a bicycle. I have done all of those things in the past and guess where they went? NOWHERE. I now have a much better idea if the girl will stop, don’t get me wrong, if a 9 runs down the street, I’m still opening her. But there’s no point throwing yourself in front of every bus only to get another blowout, it saps your vibe.

Sets, Lots of them

This may seem to contradict my last point, but I have done the thousand sets of pain already and yes, you should open pretty much everything until that’s over and done with. But now when I go into set I have no idea what I’m going to say to the girl until I get in front. The idea of doing this used to petrify me. But as with any skillset, if you practice it enough you will pick up the nuances, add your own patterns and everything will start to feel natural. So go on then, DO SOME SETS.

Highlights

  • 4 girls in 10 days (3 in the last 3 nights) in Belgrade
  • Banging my first 17 year old and she didn’t speak a word of English.
  • There were a few of the girls I really liked

Lowlights

  • I didn’t enjoy it when the D6 Kiev cut me off after I kicked her out post-sex. I actually liked hanging out with her and would have seen her again.
  • Moscow
  • There was one very fucked up moment when I got some terrible news in Kiev. I’ll keep that for a memoir.

What next?

Unfortunately I will be in daygame prison for the first quarter of 2018, I’ll do some sets but game will take a back seat while I focus on other things. So don’t expect much action from this blog.

Happy New Year, Players.

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12 thoughts on “2017 – The Year of Ups and Downs

  1. “I understand if you know your stats are shit and you’d rather bury your head in the sand, that’s fine.”

    Yeah, that’s me, but I was inspired by your posts to keep stats and so I am even though mine are very humbling. I’m still not through my 1000 sets of hell, I have about four hundred left to go on that front. It’s tough some times, but I am encouraged reading guys like you and Nash from Days of Game and some other guys I think are on the level. It keeps us guys going through hell going.

    I look forward to more of your posts in 2018. Happy New Year.

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  2. Now youve travelled with Krauser can you spill the beans on the QUALITY of his girls. I have seen Nick approaching and on instant dates three times. Twice in Prague and once in Belgrade. On all three occasions he was with low 6s. One was a 5. Thats not hating thats fact. Does he fudge his lay report photos?

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  3. Based on my 8 years of experience in doing this and why I no longer keep stats is that there are 2 main factors that determine a date and a lay – Patience and persistence.

    I’ve had numbers that went cold from the very first text that I kept pinging at random intervals, which eventually made the girls respond and come out. In addition to this, I’ve gone as far as 4 dates before getting the lay.

    I believe for this reason, many daygamers are shooting themselves in the foot and missing a lot of opportunities with girls who they could have otherwise got had they stayed patient, and all for the sake of improving efficiency.

    For shits and giggles, I decided to track my stats of approach to lay with a Lithuanian girl I dated throughout the second half of 2017, after deciding to date one due to not ever going with a Lithuanian girl. It took me approx 11 approaches, a few weeks of texting back and forth followed by 4 dates to get the lay.

    In daygame stats terms, that makes me a superhero PUA of 1 out of 11 approaches, which of course is bullshit lol

    The takeaway I got from this is that while the courtship process is fairly predictable. Women are human and will have their own unique blueprint to be lead towards before they feel comfortable to sleeping with someone. For that reason, I see every opportunity as organic and no longer track anything.

    And also because I’m at a stage now where I actually like having girls spend time with me while i’m out seducing them. Getting laid is easy, but it’s only when you really start enjoying them throughout the seduction process where things become a lot more pleasurable.

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    1. Fair enough Onder.

      Couldn’t agree more that patience and persistence are big factors, I had two girls in 2017 that were 6 dates before the lay.

      For some keeping stats is a phase you go through until you get to a stage where you are in it for the love of being in set, “enjoying the process”.

      I’m pretty much already there in terms of enjoying the sets but I don’t think that will stop me keeping stats. I’d say that has more to do with the nerdy side of my personality rather than needing to track every ratio.

      Back on the streets now then?

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      1. Yes, Took a stroll down Oxford Street and got stopped by 2 Daygamers who recognised me from Tom’s documentary lol But overall, quite productive. Where are you currently staying?

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  4. Sounds like your Krauser’s new pet like Bodi was. Be warned that he’ll vibe tap the fuck out of you and turn you into a Neo Nazi Stormfag. Don’t tell me, you wear a leather jacket and skull rings to?

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  5. Hi Roy, interesting post, I’m wondering if you know why Nick Krauser doesn’t post stats any more. On his blog (under the FAQ tab) he says under the question “What are your stats?” –

    “I have no idea. Click the lay reports tab to see most of my lays. There’s about a dozen I never wrote up and another half dozen I wrote up and have since taken down. I’m not a high-notch guy. Don’t get too tied up in the numbers or they’ll hold you back. Much of your improvement with women will come from letting it all go and learning not to be so hard on yourself, to just be in the moment and focus on the ebbs and flows of the interaction. Keeping spreadsheets and tracking stats gives you extra things to worry about and the illusion of control. Ditch them.”

    You seem to say the opposite.

    Many thanks, Rob

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    1. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion mate, same applies in game.

      I get his theory and that’s fine, I just think differently. I like stats BUT I don’t let the them bother me and am never overly conscious of them. As I mentioned in this post, I didn’t closely examine the numbers until the end of the year and it was a pleasant surprise to compare to the previous year. Equally, If the numbers were worse than the previous year it wouldn’t have bothered me.

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