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Her eyes weren’t as big as this but everything else is about right

I’ve been in Kiev for 10 days now, it’s been eventful and I like this city more than Moscow by a country mile. I’ve done a fair bit of daygame, some night game and have had two near misses. I got my first lay a week in, here’s the story…

It was quite late on Tuesday evening past, around 11pm. Xants was on a date which would lead to the first notch of the trip. I was gutter gaming with Krauser and was waiting for him to finish a set at the top of Khreschatyk street. A cute brunette drifted past me in a white blouse, green skirt and green plimsolls, she looked very K. Lets call her Kera, she’s a bog standard 7.

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She looked dreamy. I told her this and challenged her as to why she was wandering around on her own on a Tuesday night looking so happy with herself. Kera told me that she had just received her results from her University and that she had done very well in her exams. This seemed like a great cause to celebrate so I suggested we grab a drink right there and then. There weren’t many sets around, Krauser was talking about going home soon and I had to stay out of the flat while Xants got his notch, it seemed like a win-win. She agreed so I walked us to the nearest bar where we could sit outside which happened to be a place called Casta.

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Kera told me she doesn’t normally drink alcohol but today was a special occasion. She perused the cocktail menu like it was the first time she’d ever seen a cocktail menu. I ordered a beer, she eeny-meeny-miney-moed and landed on a long Island Ice tea.

We did the comfort fluff. I found out she was 20 years old, played classical violin, was from a small city and moved to Kiev 2 years ago to study music. I asked her why she wasn’t celebrating with her friends if it was such a big occasion. She told me she had just been walking all afternoon with her friend and now her friend had gone home.

I have heard of this “walking” past-time from several girls in Kiev now, please do not confuse it with the Walker Walk. There seem to be a few different types of girls that do the “walking”…

  1. Whores looking to solicit greasy, fat Turkish men
  2. Girls looking to attract attention from normal men
  3. Girls who genuinely have nothing better to do or more importantly can’t afford to do so
  4. Girls who are genuinely trying to get from A to B

I put Kera firmly in category 3.

We had one drink, I suggested going back to mine but she made excuses and I ordered her an uber and as we waited I got a proper kiss with a little bit of tongue.

The next day I pinged her to suggest we meet on Thursday evening at 9pm. She responded saying yes, but would only be available at 11pm. I took this late meeting as a good sign so I agreed.

At around 10.30 I pinged her to confirm, she messaged back a 10.40 saying she could meet now.

D2

I bumped into her at the top of Kreschatyk as I was walking with Krauser and Xants.

She looked cute in a blue flowery dress and a white cardigan. I walked her to the Irish bar and walked us straight to the booths at the back. We sat down and she expressed her desire to sit in the main bar so that she could watch the band. I said “no, I didn’t bring you here to watch music, I brought you here so I could speak to you, it will be too loud in there”.

She looked unimpressed. The waitress came and spoke in Ukrainian to Kera asking us if we would go to the main bar. I told her, obviously in English, that we would be sitting here.

We ordered drinks, she ordered food, only a salad so it didn’t break the bank. She asked again if we could go to the other side, she really wanted to watch the band. I relented due to the fact that she was a musician so I told her I would go look for a table, she should wait in our seats. I took a wander and there were no good seats, the band was really loud and really shit. I walked back to tell her this and she had already gathered all her things and was walking towards me.

I told her to sit back down, she said no, lets go to the main bar. I told her

“you can go to the main bar, I will go home. I came here to speak to you, if you don’t want that I will leave now”.

She hurried back to our seats. There were a few moments of awkward silence, I think she was scared of me at this point but also massively attracted by the dominance and my willingness to walk away.

We had one drink each, she ate her salad and I suggested we go for a walk. We walked in the direction of my apartment, as we got closer I pointed to the flat and said “I live just there, let’s go up for a glass of wine and you can show me some of your favourite classical music on youtube”. She hesitated and I said “you can leave if you feel uncomfortable at any moment”. She followed me up.

We got inside, I showed her around and poured us some wine and she chose a Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto on Youtube, it was really fucking good. We kissed a lot and I tried to pull her to the bedroom 3 or 4 times but she kept resisting.

It was now pushing 3am, I got up, took her hand and pulled her towards the bedroom, she followed. I put her on the bed, went back and fetched the laptop and the wine. We watched some more Youtube and fooled around. It took me about an hour, but by around 4am I finally beat the LMR and banged her whilst Tchaikovsky played in the background. Culture.

Debrief

She told me she had only ever had sex with one person before, her boyfriend of three years. She said the sex with him was terrible and that it was so much better with me. We only did missionary and I lasted 5 minutes. That guy must have been really bad in bed.

We’re still in contact so I may get her round for seconds… if I get bored of trying to get fresh notches. So probably not.

Learning Points

  1. Even if you put her in the k box, it doesn’t mean she won’t bang
  2. A lot of girls in Kiev are very poor
  3. Frame is everything – I’m pretty sure the moment I threatened to walk out got me the notch
  4. Classical music is great to have sex to
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9 thoughts on “Lay Report: 20yr Old Violinist

  1. Awesome!
    Sounds like all that wondering around keeps them healthy, and just eating salad
    Think I been to that Irish pub on a D1, opposite Casta bar? Got her home

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  2. “It took me about an hour, but by around 4am I finally beat the LMR and banged her whilst Tchaikovsky played in the background. Culture.”

    yeah baby!

    “She told me she had only ever had sex with one person before, her boyfriend of three years. ”

    a high value girl. the best.

    “I think she was scared of me at this point but also massively attracted by the dominance and my willingness to walk away.”

    “I’m pretty sure the moment I threatened to walk out got me the notch”

    lovedrop also talked about the willingness to walk.

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  3. >> “you can go to the main bar, I will go home. I came here to speak to you, if you don’t want that I will leave now”.

    Man, this is right in the context of an ongoing issues I am dealing with in my game… when she won’t sit side by side. Fucking burns me when a girl won’t do it, and if I have a chip on my shoulder with girls… that might be it.

    It doesn’t happen all that often… most of the girls are pretty sweet and don’t challenge the idea of sitting next to me. But next time it happens, my plan is to tell her she can sit next to me or she’s free to go.

    Yohami thinks I’m being too stubborn and will burn a perfectly good chance as I’d rather fight than move on and display my value. I think he’s partially right. But…

    >> Frame is everything – I’m pretty sure the moment I threatened to walk out got me the notch

    I’m very inclined to agree with this. Loosing frame battles is the opposite of good game.

    >> There were a few moments of awkward silence, I think she was scared of me at this point but also massively attracted by the dominance and my willingness to walk away.

    This… is also interesting. Sounds like torture for most men, that awkwardness. But if you can survive it, and turn the date around… you’ve given her a full range of emotions, AND have shown your strength/leadership/resilience.

    Congrats on the +1. I’m dating two artist girls now… both are extraordinary, in many ways.

    Viva daygame.

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    1. She wasn’t resisting the idea of sitting next to me, just wanted to watch the band… I wouldn’t walk out if she didn’t want to sit next to me, that just means you haven’t warmed her up enough.

      Dating two? Nice… I look forward to daygaming in one place again. There have been a few girls on this trip that I would like to keep around but it’s logistically impossible. Player problems.

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      1. I get your situation in the post… in both cases, we have a “line” that is important to us. And a frame battle.

        But I’m noting that you also wouldn’t get testy if she wouldn’t sit next to you.

        I happen to think that is a dumbass test for a girl to do. She would sit next to a guy on the bus… so if she won’t on a date… it’s some power bullshit. And I find that girls that make that move, tend to suck on the date beyond that move. We’ll see. It’s a bit of weak spot that it bugs me… we’ll see how it goes when it comes up next time.

        But I see a lot of parallels in your post and that situation for me. And you had to stand firm 3 times or so. And then you think that was what got you laid… I’m inclined to agree.

        >> Dating two?

        I was dating three… but I kicked a girl out because I wanted the time… time to game new girls, time for myself. She gave me a couple red flags and that’s all I needed. That… and I can fuck more than I thought I could… but I’m much weaker on the street if I’m too “over sexed.” So being a little pent up helps the approaching.

        I still have a lot to learn about the model and women. And the approach. So I don’t want to get too “nesty” with too many girls, then I have no time/intent to pickup and date new girls.

        I’m getting old… I don’t have that many years to really kill it. I don’t want to waste time w/ a girl… if she’s GREAT, yes… if she’s GOOD… I’d rather go fish.

        I have a lot to learn. And I love the process with a new girl.

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